
By Adam Rosenberg in New York City
Chronicles of Riddick, the first movement in Vin Diesel’s
own personal opus is getting the full director’s cut DVD release on 11/16.
Diesel, who is in New York working on a new film with Sidney Lumet, took some
time out of his busy schedule to forge through the bustle of midtown Manhattan
and answer a few questions about the DVD release, current projects, Sidney Lumet,
and (most importantly) superpowers. He arrived late and was obviously running
himself ragged with a full press day on his plate. Despite being near exhaustion,
the unrestrained zeal Diesel has for this project shone through in his answers
and his general attitude towards fielding the questions.
How pleased were you with the theatrical cut of the film as compared
to material edited back into the unrated cut?
Diesel: How pleased was I with the theatrical cut? I was pleased with the theatrical
cut. And I was excited about the DVD director’s cut because I was excited
with the idea of adding other story elements to the film that we weren’t
able to incorporate into the theatrical experience. I think what’s interesting
about the fact that there’s an extended version on DVD… I think
what we’re finding is the DVD medium is kinda defining itself as a separate
medium. Unlike the VHS copies of movies that we used to get that were just an
opportunity to see the movie at home, the DVD experience is an opportunity to
fully explore this universe of the Chronicles of Riddick and an opportunity
to go behind the scenes in an interesting way. And the director usually gets
an opportunity to tell the full story and not be limited to theatrical running
times or what have you.
What does the new footage add to the film, specifically those three
scenes with Kristin Lehman’s Shirah character?
I think it gives you a sense of origin. I think it starts to flesh out a sense
of origin for our Riddick character, this enigmatic character, in a cool way.
The Shirah character really comes in at important moments like when he’s
on the runway. The Shirah character, in creating this story, was designed to
introduce Riddick to his Furyan nature. So on the runway she unleashes this
radius of fury, this burst of Furyan energy that actually repels this negative
energy which is this long explanation that you’ll see in future Chronicles
of Riddick pictures. When we were creating this story, we were creating a story
that would be told over three films. The Shirah character is introduced in [this]
film but is paid off in the third film, if you will. When the way that it’s
designed -- and I hope I’m not giving too much away -- but in Chronicles
of Riddick II we now go into the Underverse and then C3, if you will, is that
final return home to Furya. That’s it in a nutshell.
Are the next two films a lock? Are they definitely happening?
Nothing’s a lock in this world. (laugh) I guess we’ll see what
happens with this DVD.
The DVD could bring a whole new life to the film. Do you think that
will happen? How does that affect people seeing the film for the first time?
Do you think they’ll wait for the DVD now because they know there will
be an unrated cut with more footage?
Yeah, I think people will wait for the DVD. I think that Pitch Black was really
introduced to the world via DVD. I don’t know how many of us actually
saw the movie in the theater, but when Pitch Black came out it was [mainly]
introduced on the DVD format. I think and I’ve always thought that Chronicles
of Riddick is this intense ball of energy that hasn’t really exploded
yet and will continue on throughout the DVD release. But there’s a sequel
to the video game being made. I mean the franchise… there’s constant
work being put into the franchise. I think there will be the follow-up. I think
you’ll have to see Riddick go to the Underverse and I think you’ll
ultimately have to see Riddick go back to Furya.
Do you feel a responsibility to make this first film as concise and
independent from the other two as possible, despite the fact that you know where
it’s going?
I don’t because the whole objective for me is to try, in my mind, to
introduce characters in this first film that don’t pay off [immediately],
in a very George Lucas/70s way. [Characters] that don’t pay off until
later films. I like that. I think that that speaks to a well thought-out trilogy.
But again there’s the anxiety. The film business is so kind of arbitrary
that you don’t know whether…. (editor’s note: he trails off
here) We made Pitch Black with a company called Polygram. (laughs)
This film made more than the first film did. But because it cost so
much, there’s a perception that this was not a successful movie. How do
you plan to approach future films in the series based on the performance of
both Chronicles of Riddick and Pitch Black?
Good question. It depends who you ask. For me… we made Pitch Black with
20 million dollars. I think that you can continue this character regardless
of the film budget. You follow me? So will the next film be a PG, 100 and something
million dollar movie? I don’t know. Could the next film be [R-rated] by
virtue of the fact that it takes place in the Underverse which is obviously
gonna be a lot more gruesome than New Mecca? The sequel to this would be rated
R and would return to the rated R fashion that Pitch Black was shot in.
What are your feelings on the bootleg possibilities of so many DVDs
cutting into what the film’s going to earn?
I wouldn’t know what to say. I mean it’s definitely not the most
drastic issue in our country. But you know, I don’t know if the idea…
I don’t think anyone should be bootlegging my films.
When you were first introduced to the character of Riddick did you
feel this passionately about it? And did you always think that this was going
to take on an extended life and evolve into this sort of thing or has this always
been an evolving process?
When I first did Pitch Black, I was drawn to this intense character arc. This
was the first character arc that I had seen that was that interesting and that
kind of… he starts out as a serial killer and then is the only guy that
you want to save you. I thought that was really, really, really, really an attractive
element to doing this film. Once I was actually shooting in Australia [for Pitch
Black and] we were nearing the end of production, that’s when I started
to think, ‘wow, wouldn’t it be cool’ – and it might’ve
been during some of the shots where we were leaving the planet – ‘wouldn’t
it be cool if we could follow Riddick off of this planet and allow him to introduce
us to this whole universe and mythology.’ So really that concept started
as we were nearing the end of our production shoot in Australia for Pitch Black.
I was told that you screen tested quite a bit for Lord of the Rings.
Is this your Lord of the Rings, the fantasy movie that you’ve wanted to
do since you played Dungeons & Dragons?
Yes. This is only partially fantasy though, obviously. The kind of expertise
that David Twohy has is in that sci-fi world. [Chronicles of Riddick] was a
fusion of sci-fi and fantasy. I mean that was the objective.
David Twohy had mentioned how Lord of the Rings has opened up this
sense that long stories are now a viable product in Hollywood. What are your
thoughts, as a filmmaker and a storyteller, on the gamble of coming up with
this whole myhology that may not pay off?
Yeah, it’s thrilling and it’s frightening. It’s thrilling
because you’re really going for a story that isn’t done in a reactionary
way. It isn’t like we do a film and [we say] ‘oh, we made a lot
of money with that, let’s put something else together.’ I think
we are being responsible in our storytelling by thinking of all three stories
before making the first one. But there is that level of anxiety because you
get questions like: is the future film dependant on that? Because it’s
a realistic question. But if you’re enjoying the creative process then
it doesn’t [matter, the risk]; it’s not life threatening to be creative.
Some of the ideas that you and David had for this whole thing, can
some of that also be incorporated into other formats, as it was with animation
and video games?
Yeah, yeah… absolutely. That was the whole idea of having the other formats.
That was the whole idea of doing the Peter Chung (editor’s note: creator
of Aeon Flux) homage to Riddick. That was the motivating force in creating Tigon
[Studios, my video game company] and creating the video game Escape From Butcher
Bay with Starbreeze and Vivendi because It [gave] us an opportunity to explain
some of the backstory of Riddick. In the video game you learn how he got his
eyes and you learn what he’s been doing with his [time]. The video game
does a lot to flesh out the universe and the mythology. That was what was so
fun about doing the video game because obviously that’s a less expensive
way to be creative.
Really early on in your career when you were an independent film maker
you did something incredible. You were like a rookie pointing to the stands
and saying ‘I’m gonna hit a home run. I’m gonna hit a grand
slam home run. I’m going to be the biggest action star.’ Now you
are. How does the reality differ from the dream for you?
That’s a loooong… wow. I love – you get a lot of people that
say they love what they do. I really love what I do. To the point where I’m
borderline obsessed with what I do and it’s my hobby. It’s my lifestyle.
I actually don’t think about it as much as I probably could because I
always feel like I’m behind the 8-ball. Like I feel like I should be talking
about [my next big project] Hannibal the Conquerer already. And I feel like
I’ve gotta get back and get to work and make sure that that’s right.
I’m in a very lucky position. On one hand I’m able to do these big
action films that are fun, that are empowering to some degree, that charge people
up when they come in the theater and see this whole production. But on another
level, on the other hand, I’m able to work with Sidney Lumet. I’ve
been working with Sidney Lumet for the last four weeks. I gained weight. My
whole look has changed, I’m kind of incognito cause I don’t want
to talk too much to anyone. But I’ve been working with Sidney Lumet and
I cannot tell you what kind of an unbelievable experience it’s been. I’ve
locked myself up in my house for four weeks because I’m playing a character
that is defending himself in court but living in prison. A character named Jackie
DiNorscio. I don’t know if you remember the boys from New Jersey, the
trial that went on in the 80s, the largest mob trial in history where 20 defendants
were acquitted. That’s the story I’m doing right now. So my answer
is, I feel incredibly fortunate and isn’t it crazy that you remember me
as the guy saying I’m gonna do all this. I guess I just… it sounds
crazy. You know what? It’s what I really believe. If I die tomorrow and
you want to know the truth, it’s what I really believed. I don’t
know how else to say that. I know it sounds [like] bullshit, I know it sounds
fabricated when people say stuff like that but it’s what I’ve wanted
to dedicate my life to. Film. And the making of film. The exploration of film.
What did you get from Sidney Lumet? What did you learn about filmmaking?
Good question. I am learning so much. He is so incredible, so demanding in
some ways. I mean it’s like we’ll do 5 to 13 pages of dialogue a
day. He’ll do 7 minute talking shots, 10 minute, I mean he’s incredible.
He has it all mapped out in his head. And what I really, really, really think
is that Sidney Lumet is someone we’ll all be reminded of next year when
Find Me Guilty comes out. We got Pete Dinklage in the film, [and] Linus Roache.
The greatest thing about Sidney in terms of him teaching me directing stuff
– cause he knows that I have the heart of a director and [am] planning
to return to directing very shortly – he’ll have me come look behind
the monitor and explain these very interesting, very cool shots. I mean literally
stop for a second and say, “hey listen Vinny, I’m pulling the camera
back and I dollied but I’m changing the lens so that the subject stays
the same proportion in the frame but the background starts to bleed.”
I mean he’ll walk me through all these things and it’s like I used
to say with Steven Spielberg; I would’ve gone out to London just to get
a cup of coffee let alone do a role that he wrote for me. With Sidney Lumet
I’d be on that set every morning at 6am just to watch him work because
he’s doing it so fast. He’s gonna do this whole film in under a
month, in 28 days. Every day that I go on set I feel like I’m doing an
opening night performance. It’s very reminiscent of the theater experience
of the younger years before going out to Hollywood and it’s just a dream
that New York actors are so rich. I mean every one in that courtroom is incredible.
This is the only day that I’ve left my apartment. I know that sounds crazy
but it’s in some way some form of method acting, right? I had been so
locked on those characters that it’s amazing I’m doing anything
but reciting lines of Jackie DiNorscio right now. But Riddick is my baby. So
you got me.
Did you ever read Sidney’s book Making Movies?
Do you want to know something? Just because you said that… one of the
reasons, one of the great things about working with Sidney Lumet is when I directed
Multi-Facial and I’d been acting since I was seven years old… I’m
in my mid-20s, I’d already gone out to L.A. for a year and a half and
I didn’t get an agent, couldn’t get anything. [I] came back to New
York with my tail between my legs. When I started directing [Multi-Facial] I
used Making Movies, Sidney Lumet’s Making Movies to the point where I
wanted to rehearse at the Ukrainian hall.
Have you considered returning to the xXx franchise or the Fast and
the Furious franchise at all?
Am I ever gonna do another Fast and the Furious movie? I can tell you one thing…
you may very well… you’re beginning to know my personality. Let’s
just say… god I wanna give you some juice so bad. God, it’s so political….
(trails off) It’s very New York.
Our time’s almost up, but just one last question to ask. If you
could have any superpower, what would it be?
Charm.
The DVD for The Chronicles of Riddick comes out on Tuesday, November 16.